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Gerald and Wally are Black men who live in the suburbs of Atlanta.
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Both grew up voting for Democrats and voted for President Joe Biden in 2020.
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They voted for President Donald Trump in 2024.
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Gerald is 51 years old.
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Wally is 44 years old.
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Gerald works as a truck driver.
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Wally works in a technology job.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said, "Listen, I am so pro-Trump, people just don't even understand."
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said, "The dude is amazing because he's not following the script."
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Gerald gives Trump an A++ grade for his performance as president.
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Wally gave President Trump an F grade for his performance as president.
Wally, technology worker
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Wally asked, "Like, what do we have that we can hang our hat on right now?"
Wally, technology worker
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Wally said, "We have higher gas prices."
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Gerald and Wally are among a dozen swing voters in swing states who have agreed to regularly speak with NPR over the next three years as part of a project called Swing Shift.
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Participants agreed not to use their full names and commissioned an artist to illustrate portraits to allow them to speak more freely.
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Swing Shift is an ongoing conversation with a group of voters who could be pivotal in both this year's midterm elections and the 2028 presidential election.
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The participants live in swing states and do not always vote for the same party.
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Most participants voted for Biden in 2020 and then Trump in 2024.
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At some point in the past decade, all participants have voted for Trump.
Frank Luntz, pollster
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Frank Luntz said, "How they vote is how America will vote."
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Frank Luntz said, "This 7 percent of America that goes back and forth and not just back and forth between Republicans and Democrats – they'll vote for an independent candidate and they may not even vote. And that is the margin of success in the states and districts that matter."
Wally, technology worker
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Wally said, "I think with Trump, we're just trying to weather this guy."
Wally, technology worker
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Wally said, "We can't get to 2029 fast enough. The problem is what shape will we be in once we get there."
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Wally sat in his backyard by a fire pit near the swing set he said his kids are getting too big for.
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His family is financially secure.
Wally, technology worker
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Wally said he wants a better country for his children.
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Wally said, "Everyone's drowning, and like we just need to come up for air."
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Wally said, "No one's really just trying to swim to shore. We're just trying to get our head or our noses above the water."
Wally, technology worker
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Wally said he did not have high expectations for a second Trump term and was fed up with the incremental change Democrats were offering.
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According to public opinion research, Trump enjoyed more Black voter support than any Republican presidential candidate since Ronald Reagan's election in 1980.
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36% of Black voters approved of Trump's job performance in February 2025.
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26% of Black voters approve of Trump's job performance today.
Wally, technology worker
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Wally said, "I feel if people get mad enough, they'll force change."
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Wally said, "They'll force it somehow."
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Wally said his wife was not on board with his political change or his nihilist view of what the country needs.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said his wife supported his political shift to supporting Trump.
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Gerald said his vote in 2024 was a hopeful one after researching and doing more critical thinking.
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Gerald said, "And to me critical thinking means, what if I'm wrong about what I've been told?"
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Gerald credits his children with helping him challenge his views, especially as he learned more about history.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said he is never going back to the Democrats, despite losing friends over his pro-Trump social media posts.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said he is a big fan of using AI and gets his news from YouTube, TikTok and ABC's World News with David Muir.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said gas prices for diesel are higher than for regular unleaded, so he has been trying to use his wife's car to save money on fuel.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said he has faith in Trump and that the current economic pain will be worth it if the threat from Iran is resolved.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said, "I just try to do the cutting back to do, to survive, 'til we make it through it. It's like anything else. It's a season."
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said he uses apps to find discounts on gas and noted there are other ways to cut back, like not eating out at restaurants and eating less.
Gerald, truck driver
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Gerald said, "Cook. Fast. I mean me and my wife have been fasting, and there's a lot of benefits, including one of those benefits is saving money on groceries."
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A poll finds eight in 10 Americans say the high price of gas is causing them economic strain.
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In that poll, nearly two-thirds of respondents blamed Trump for higher gas prices.
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